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				| example 1, channeling ??. ?????, ???, ?19g?, ???example 1?, ????tamp ???, tamp ????ok.
 
 ???, ?????2~3mm, ?16g ?, ??tamp, ?????.
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				|  發表於: 星期一 四月 20, 2009 3:36 pm    文章主題: Re: Two bad examples |   |  
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				| Under normal situations, the more coffee you use, the longer the time it takes for the extraction. The 2 examples above illustrates well a contradiction in timing, as the less coffee it took, the more the the extraction took place. That's due to channeling, which makes timing useless as a reference.
 
 I would try to use a smaller coffee weight first, e.g. 16-17 g to see a more even extraction. And if the extraction can be more even, then increase the coffee dosage incrementatlly by roughly 0.5 g.
 
 A constant tamping pressure would be important for the test comparisons.
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				|  	  | shing 寫到: |  	  | example 1, channeling ??. ?????, ???, ?19g?, ???example 1?, ????tamp ???, tamp ????ok.
 
 ???, ?????2~3mm, ?16g ?, ??tamp, ?????.
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 Example 3 -
 Similar grinder setting as 1 & 2
 heavy tamp
 19gram
 94-95 Deg
 40sec for 30cc
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEKp_Ov2Mpc
 
 
 Example 4 - (I make a mistake on weight)
 grinder setting is 2mm finer than example 3
 NO tamp
 19gram
 94-95 Deg
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wacu9qaikxQ
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				|  	  | pillowpaky 寫到: |  	  | I will use 17gram test again And I think may be it is too grosso
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 Thx for suggestion, this is what I am thinking too.  It is rush and difficult to test run during the weekdays morning.
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				|  發表於: 星期二 四月 21, 2009 2:53 pm    文章主題: Re: Two bad examples |   |  
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				|  	  | LittleCup 寫到: |  	  | Under normal situations, the more coffee you use, the longer the time it takes for the extraction. The 2 examples above illustrates well a contradiction in timing, as the less coffee it took, the more the the extraction took place. That's due to channeling, which makes timing useless as a reference.
 
 I would try to use a smaller coffee weight first, e.g. 16-17 g to see a more even extraction. And if the extraction can be more even, then increase the coffee dosage incrementatlly by roughly 0.5 g.
 
 A constant tamping pressure would be important for the test comparisons.
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 LittleCup, thx for your insight,  I will do more experiments during weekend.  Perhaps I need to get some more consistent tamping tool to speed up my learning.
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				|  	  | alexfan 寫到: |  	  |  	  | shing 寫到: |  	  | example 1, channeling ??. ?????, ???, ?19g?, ???example 1?, ????tamp ???, tamp ????ok.
 
 ???, ?????2~3mm, ?16g ?, ??tamp, ?????.
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 Example 3 -
 Similar grinder setting as 1 & 2
 heavy tamp
 19gram
 94-95 Deg
 40sec for 30cc
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEKp_Ov2Mpc
 
 
 Example 4 - (I make a mistake on weight)
 grinder setting is 2mm finer than example 3
 NO tamp
 19gram
 94-95 Deg
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wacu9qaikxQ
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 ground level same as example 4.
 19.5 gram
 light tamping.
 try 1 try.
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				|  	  | shing 寫到: |  	  |  	  | alexfan 寫到: |  	  |  	  | shing 寫到: |  	  | example 1, channeling ??. ?????, ???, ?19g?, ???example 1?, ????tamp ???, tamp ????ok.
 
 ???, ?????2~3mm, ?16g ?, ??tamp, ?????.
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 Example 3 -
 Similar grinder setting as 1 & 2
 heavy tamp
 19gram
 94-95 Deg
 40sec for 30cc
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEKp_Ov2Mpc
 
 
 Example 4 - (I make a mistake on weight)
 grinder setting is 2mm finer than example 3
 NO tamp
 19gram
 94-95 Deg
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wacu9qaikxQ
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 ground level same as example 4.
 19.5 gram
 light tamping.
 try 1 try.
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 example 4
 I feel it is too fine
 
 
 Try to take the video when you put the grounded coffee into the basket
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				|  	  | shing 寫到: |  	  | grinder setting coarse 1 turn than example 7. 19.5 ~ 20 grams.
 dont flush before brewing.
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 Here it is
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXpctKidL7k
 
 19.5 gram
 36 sec
 30cc
 96C
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 ????????????温?????????????????tamping???Post ???????Shing??Pillowpaky?????????????????
 
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