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		nelf
 
 
  註冊時間: 2006-11-21 文章: 318
 
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				 發表於: 星期四 十二月 28, 2006 9:02 am    文章主題: I want to make a database for our espresso brewing result... | 
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				Since we all have a espresso machine, I think it will be very interesting to record all our result into a online database so we can see what kind of setups yield the best result for our machines.. and to see what we can learn from the interaction between different freshness of the beans, grind fineness, pressure, tamping and temperature...
 
 
I hope it will lead us to make better espresso...
 
 
if we have a database, we can record all our results and compare it with other people's, also, it will be very beneficial to new comers too.. 
 
 
are you guys interested? _________________ www.zooom.hk -- high speed file transfer | 
			 
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				 發表於: 星期四 十二月 28, 2006 9:21 am    文章主題:  | 
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				you guys just have to fill in the online form...
 
 
Brew number: (automatic)
 
Date:
 
Time:
 
 
Machine Profile:
 
Machine:
 
Modification:
 
Basket Diameter:
 
Basket Size:
 
 
Grinder Profile:
 
Grinder:
 
Modifications:
 
 
Bean Profile:
 
Fineness:
 
Bean Type:
 
Date of Roasting:
 
Time of Roasting:
 
Darkness:
 
Roasted bean purchase from:
 
Roasting Method:
 
 
Brewing:
 
Amount of Powder (grams):
 
Tamping Pressure:(easy, medium, hard)
 
Brew Lasting Time:
 
Amount of Espresso:
 
Espresso Color:
 
Amount of Crema:
 
Taste Rating:(out of 10)
 
Tasting Remarks:
 
Biscuit: (broken, intact, into pieces, mushy):
 
Notes:
 
 
you can setup Machines' and Grinders' profile, so you don't have to fill it in every time... _________________ www.zooom.hk -- high speed file transfer | 
			 
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		kckc
 
  
  註冊時間: 2006-03-15 文章: 1918
 
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				 發表於: 星期四 十二月 28, 2006 9:37 am    文章主題:  | 
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				 	  | nelf 寫到: | 	 		  you guys just have to fill in the online form...
 
 
Brew number: (automatic)
 
Date:
 
Time:
 
 
Machine Profile:
 
Machine:
 
Modification:
 
Basket Diameter:
 
Basket Size:
 
 
Grinder Profile:
 
Grinder:
 
Modifications:
 
 
Bean Profile:
 
Fineness:
 
Bean Type:
 
Date of Roasting:
 
Time of Roasting:
 
Darkness:
 
Roasted bean purchase from:
 
Roasting Method:
 
 
Brewing:
 
Amount of Powder (grams):
 
Tamping Pressure:(easy, medium, hard)
 
Brew Lasting Time:
 
Amount of Espresso:
 
Espresso Color:
 
Amount of Crema:
 
Taste Rating:(out of 10)
 
Tasting Remarks:
 
Biscuit: (broken, intact, into pieces, mushy):
 
Notes:
 
 
you can setup Machines' and Grinders' profile, so you don't have to fill it in every time... | 	  
 
wow, great idea!
 
it let me think of creating a seperate database for keeping these data... | 
			 
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		kckc
 
  
  註冊時間: 2006-03-15 文章: 1918
 
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				 發表於: 星期四 十二月 28, 2006 9:45 am    文章主題:  | 
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				 	  | nelf 寫到: | 	 		  you guys just have to fill in the online form...
 
 
Brew number: (automatic)
 
Date:
 
Time:
 
 
Machine Profile:
 
Machine:
 
Modification:
 
Basket Diameter:
 
Basket Size:
 
 
Grinder Profile:
 
Grinder:
 
Modifications:
 
 
Bean Profile:
 
Fineness:
 
Bean Type:
 
Date of Roasting:
 
Time of Roasting:
 
Darkness:
 
 
Roasted bean purchase from:
 
Roasting Method:
 
 
Brewing:
 
Amount of Powder (grams):
 
Tamping Pressure:(easy, medium, hard)
 
Brew Lasting Time:
 
Amount of Espresso:
 
Espresso Color:
 
Amount of Crema:
 
Taste Rating:(out of 10)
 
Tasting Remarks:
 
Biscuit: (broken, intact, into pieces, mushy):
 
Notes:
 
 
you can setup Machines' and Grinders' profile, so you don't have to fill it in every time... | 	  
 
Brew number:
 
Date: 28-12-06
 
Time: 8:25
 
 
Machine Profile: mod. max 10 bar
 
Machine: EC190
 
Modification: Max 10 bar
 
Basket Diameter: 51mm
 
Basket Size: approx 12g
 
 
Grinder Profile: 
 
Grinder: 600n
 
Modifications: dimmer(didn't use)
 
 
Bean Profile: Nica
 
Fineness: 10
 
Bean Type: arabica
 
Date of Roasting: 27-12
 
Time of Roasting: unknown
 
Darkness: 2nd crack (second crack of 2nd crack)
 
Roasted bean purchase from: landy
 
Roasting Method: popcorn
 
 
Brewing: espresso
 
Amount of Powder (grams): unknown, considered as overdosed
 
Tamping Pressure:(easy, medium, hard) approx 35lbs
 
Brew Lasting Time: approx 17sec
 
Amount of Espresso: 20cc
 
Espresso Color: tiger striping
 
Amount of Crema: 1/2
 
Taste Rating:(out of 10) 7
 
Tasting Remarks: none
 
Biscuit: (broken, intact, into pieces, mushy):n/a
 
Notes: side channeling on user side | 
			 
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		kckc
 
  
  註冊時間: 2006-03-15 文章: 1918
 
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				 發表於: 星期四 十二月 28, 2006 9:52 am    文章主題: Re: I want to make a database for our espresso brewing resul | 
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				 	  | nelf 寫到: | 	 		  Since we all have a espresso machine, I think it will be very interesting to record all our result into a online database so we can see what kind of setups yield the best result for our machines.. and to see what we can learn from the interaction between different freshness of the beans, grind fineness, pressure, tamping and temperature...
 
 
I hope it will lead us to make better espresso...
 
 
if we have a database, we can record all our results and compare it with other people's, also, it will be very beneficial to new comers too.. 
 
 
are you guys interested? | 	  
 
i've made one but seems way too complicated..
 
i think it is enough for these   
 
 
Beans:
 
Day after roasted:
 
Roast degree:
 
 
Machine:
 
Basket dia.:
 
Dose(amount of coffee):
 
Dosing method:
 
Extraction Speed(approx. sec):
 
Time before blonding:
 
Crema color:
 
Body:
 
Aftertaste:
 
Coffeepuck:
 
Remarks: | 
			 
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		lulu
 
  
  註冊時間: 2006-11-23 文章: 164
 
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				 發表於: 星期五 十二月 29, 2006 1:27 am    文章主題:  | 
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				?~~~  ? pro...   
 
 ??d ????,  ?????嘢?...., ????????????~~   
 
 
??? database ? MC ??d, ??? ????,    
 
 
Espresso Color: tiger striping 
 
Amount of Crema: 1/2 
 
Taste Rating:(out of 10) 7 
 
Tasting Remarks: none
 
Crema color: 
 
Body: 
 
Aftertaste: 
 
Coffeepuck: | 
			 
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		kckc
 
  
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				 發表於: 星期五 十二月 29, 2006 2:23 am    文章主題:  | 
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				 	  | lulu 寫到: | 	 		  ?~~~  ? pro...   
 
 ??d ????,  ?????嘢?...., ????????????~~   
 
 
??? database ? MC ??d, ??? ????,    
 
 
Espresso Color: tiger striping 
 
Amount of Crema: 1/2 
 
Taste Rating:(out of 10) 7 
 
Tasting Remarks: none
 
Crema color: 
 
Body: 
 
Aftertaste: 
 
Coffeepuck: | 	  
 
as the degree of roast, dosage are very important, so i will also write down   
 
 
Beans: 2nd crack starts
 
Amount of Crema: 1/2 
 
Taste Rating:(out of 10) 6 
 
Tasting Remarks: not enough flavor, just body.
 
Crema color: tiger striping
 
Body: acceptable
 
Aftertaste: good
 
Coffeepuck: n/a | 
			 
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		kckc
 
  
  註冊時間: 2006-03-15 文章: 1918
 
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				 發表於: 星期五 十二月 29, 2006 2:34 am    文章主題:  | 
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				 	  | lulu 寫到: | 	 		  ?~~~  ? pro...   
 
 ??d ????,  ?????嘢?...., ????????????~~   
 
 
??? database ? MC ??d, ??? ????,    
 
 
Espresso Color: tiger striping 
 
Amount of Crema: 1/2 
 
Taste Rating:(out of 10) 7 
 
Tasting Remarks: none
 
Crema color: 
 
Body: 
 
Aftertaste: 
 
Coffeepuck: | 	  
 
?D??complicated D,??????~ ???????~   
 
Beans: ??
 
Day after roasted: ???????
 
Roast degree: ?????????..?????..?D
 
 
Machine: ??
 
Basket dia.: ????
 
Dose(amount of coffee): ??(??????)
 
Distribution method: ?????D?????(?????)
 
Extraction Speed(approx. sec): ????????? 
 
Time before blonding: ?shot??????????
 
 
Crema color: crema???,????,?????,????D
 
Body: ?????,???
 
Aftertaste: ???????????
 
Coffeepuck: ??????
 
Remarks: ??
 
 
 
thx all!!        
 
BTW, good idea nelf, if and of the information missing, pls help me fill in   | 
			 
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		nelf
 
 
  註冊時間: 2006-11-21 文章: 318
 
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				 發表於: 星期五 十二月 29, 2006 7:51 am    文章主題:  | 
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				thank kckc for the info...  
 
 
but I have to see if there are enough interest.. if it is only use by 2 or 3 people aren't be useful at all.. 
 
 
i think i will wait for a few more day to see there are enough interest. _________________ www.zooom.hk -- high speed file transfer | 
			 
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		seiyapicasso
 
  
  註冊時間: 2006-03-14 文章: 2024 來自: ??
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				 發表於: 星期五 十二月 29, 2006 4:53 pm    文章主題:  | 
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				 發表於: 星期六 十二月 30, 2006 1:28 am    文章主題:  | 
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				 	  | seiyapicasso 寫到: | 	 		  ?????????.........   
 
 
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Beans: Nica 
 
Day after roasted: <1 day 
 
Roast degree: ???? 
 
 
Machine: EC190 
 
Basket dia.: 51 
 
Dose(amount of coffee): unknown 
 
Distribution method: modified stockfleths move 
 
Extraction Speed(approx. sec): 15 
 
Time before blonding: 15 
 
Crema color: Tiger striping with some bubbles 
 
Body: acceptable 
 
Aftertaste: ?? 
 
Coffeepuck: soft, means nicely expanded 
 
Remarks: this roast degree seems less body.. or maybe is my problem   | 
			 
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				 發表於: 星期日 十二月 31, 2006 5:23 am    文章主題:  | 
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				Beans: Nica 
 
Day after roasted: 1 day 
 
Roast degree: ???? 
 
 
Machine: EC190 
 
Basket dia.: 51 
 
Dose(amount of coffee): unknown 
 
Distribution method: modified stockfleths move 
 
Extraction Speed(approx. sec): 15 
 
Time before blonding: 15 
 
Crema color: Tiger striping with some bubbles 
 
Body: good 
 
Aftertaste: muddy 
 
Coffeepuck: unknown
 
Remarks: too much coffee cause muddy taste, next shot downdose.
 
 
Machine: EC190 
 
Basket dia.: 51 
 
Dose(amount of coffee): unknown 
 
Distribution method: modified stockfleths move 
 
Extraction Speed(approx. sec): 13 
 
Time before blonding: 13 
 
Crema color: A little tiger striping 
 
Body: average 
 
Aftertaste: unknown, latte served 
 
Coffeepuck: hard, with convex surface
 
Remarks: Not enough coffee, very small amount of tiger striping(???) on the crema.
 
 
Machine: EC190 
 
Basket dia.: 51 
 
Dose(amount of coffee): unknown 
 
Distribution method: modified stockfleths move 
 
Extraction Speed(approx. sec): 15 
 
Time before blonding: 15 
 
Crema color: Good ,tiger striping with crema bubbles
 
Body: good 
 
Aftertaste: unknown, latte served 
 
Coffeepuck: soft cake
 
Remarks: good dose   | 
			 
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  註冊時間: 2006-03-14 文章: 2024 來自: ??
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