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發表發表於: 星期六 四月 28, 2007 4:27 am    文章主題: 引言回覆

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advice share.
flojet for espresso machine.
1. no buffer.
2. pressure no stable when bubble insert into inlet.
3. distill water for some machine that have level control cant work.

good advice share
1. flojet output about 2 bar, dont need any acc., extra pump.,.......

recommendation
flojet + buffer + pressure regulator


Hello Shing,
Do you mind to send the pictures of the buffer + pressure regulator I should have lei ?Please don't forget the rotary pump is 4 bar...
Thank you
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you mean 4 bar is rotary pump inlet? or outlet?
if inlet, 1.5 ~ 2.5 bar is very very enough.
if over 6 or 7 bar, it doesnt need any rotary pump, if you ground coffee coarse, no temping, rotary pump inlet = outlet, no any pressure, input 6 bar = output 6 bar or under 6 bar.
in hong kong, buiding water pressure is 2 ~ 4.x bar. depend on which floor you live ar, pressure depend on height "no any extra force ar" ar. most people use pressure regulator or pressure reducer to regulate the pressure. $about 100 ~200. mine is $150. by the way most most people no use tim.
why need buffer, 1. you can use softener, good for boiler. 2. regulate the pressure. 3. say goodbye to bubble.
if all of this is done, you can start to tune your machine to become more stable, flexibility, tolerance less than 5% gar machine la.
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You don't need the product since you bought the Flojet. What you need is an water filter, the water filter gives a BUFFER to the non-stable pressure of the Flojet.
This Shurflo Accumulator seems to be for those homes without enough inlet pressure for the rotary pump.

No pressure at all from the 5 gallon bottle wor ...
Water Filter, I am not sure, since I put filtered water in the bottle.
But you said BUFFER... do you mean put a water filter after the Flojet and before go to the machine ??? Rolling Eyes
The Accumulator, keep the Flojet more stable.
Since Flojet 20dpi and rotary is 40dpi, again I am no good on this at all.Embarassed

Please teach... Embarassed

Flojet was designed to increase the inlet pressure of the pump..Even in negative pressure condition.

Yes you are right, the filter(s)after the flojet.



For the Pstat.
Oh, and why do you need a Jaeger? Confused
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Sorry ah ha,

I think there are some misunderstand between my problem and Shing and kckc...

Dear Shing,
I'm NOT going to put my machine link to the direct water pipe or supply.
I plan to use A Flojet (a brand name of a kind of pump which only for 5 gallon Bottled water.) pump and a 5 gallon water bottle. The water will be filtered before put into the bottle...
Sorry, Please click here, I want to install my machine like this:
http://www.home-barista.com/pros-perspective-briccoletta.html

Dear kckc,
And the Accumulator, keep the Flojet more stable.
Since Flojet 20dpi and rotary is 40dpi, again I am no good on this at all. Embarassed Please click here:
http://www.home-barista.com/forums/adjusting-espresso-machines-rotary-pump-brew-pressure-t1115.html?highlight=accumulator
There is not enough space for Sirai PS...
Thats why Jaeger is the 2nd Choice...quieter and smaller in size.

THANK YOU ...

Please continue to discuss this....
I don't really know how should I do oh....

Many Many Thanks to kckc and Shing...
Thank you
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??????la. flojet ?????5?????, ?????. ????buffer, ?????, ?????????, 5?????????, ?flojet power on, D ???pump???, ?????????, ???????pump ?, ?????????, ???????????????, ?????????, ??????pump???, ???????la. ?????????filter ?buffer, ?????filter, ?????buffer.
???????flojet, ?????.
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???????la. ?????????filter ?buffer, ?????filter, ?????buffer.
???????flojet, ?????.


???? ??
Shing gor,
would you please send me the pictures of the Filter (buffer) looks like ?? how much to buy 3 lei ??
Many Many Thanks
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bib 寫到:
Sorry ah ha,

I think there are some misunderstand between my problem and Shing and kckc...

Dear Shing,
I'm NOT going to put my machine link to the direct water pipe or supply.
I plan to use A Flojet (a brand name of a kind of pump which only for 5 gallon Bottled water.) pump and a 5 gallon water bottle. The water will be filtered before put into the bottle...
Sorry, Please click here, I want to install my machine like this:
http://www.home-barista.com/pros-perspective-briccoletta.html

Dear kckc,
And the Accumulator, keep the Flojet more stable.
Since Flojet 20dpi and rotary is 40dpi, again I am no good on this at all. Embarassed Please click here:
http://www.home-barista.com/forums/adjusting-espresso-machines-rotary-pump-brew-pressure-t1115.html?highlight=accumulator
There is not enough space for Sirai PS...
Thats why Jaeger is the 2nd Choice...quieter and smaller in size.

THANK YOU ...

Please continue to discuss this....
I don't really know how should I do oh....

Many Many Thanks to kckc and Shing...
Thank you

The Bric, in the review, is installed as follow:
Flojet, Filter, Machine.
Flojet is enough for rotary pump, no need for accumulator.

Don't put you brain in the "40dpi" word on the rotary pump. ie, not that important. The pump on LM linea, can run on pressure 0, w/o Flojet.

I just don't understand
Why do you need a Pstat?
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The original pstat with not very good review; anyway, will use a period of time first.

kckc, Please send pictures or link to let me know the filter...
What does it look like ??
Which kind I need ??

Many Many Thanks oh...
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Hi bib,
I don't have the photo of the water filter, you may ask shing for it, he is using them.

What is the original Pstat? Mater or CEME?
If it is Mater you may have some problem with water scale blocking the pstat, thus no shut off of the heating element.

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kckc,


That's why I need to look for or prepare a spare better pressure stat lor...
Which one I should have lei, if Sirai is too big for parking inside the case..
How about this ? I search review and they said this is better than C.E.M.E. and Ma-Ter:
http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/home/repairparts/jaegerpressurestat
Where I can buy this in HK? or you think need to order online lei?
Also don't know which one suit for me lor?
They have 3 models as I told above...
Since I also search Sirai for you.
The one is specially designed for coffee machine...but don't know can easy find in HK , Not as simple as you said, the plastic cover just for protection, inside 99% metal oh..:
http://www.sirai.com/inglese/pdf/altri/P302.pdf
Hope can help la..
Thank you for your sharing...

Many Thanks
bib
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kckc,

???? SIRAI ?????
???????? Espresso Machine ?嘅 Pstat...

?? ????揾?????????... ??
???????...??????...

Please let me know which Pstat you bought...
Thank you Thank you
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No,
????is abundant in Hong Kong.
60% of the machine parts is ????, and I can buy them all in Hong Kong. And I can find 99.9% of the parts in Hong Kong. Till now, I haven't imported anything.

For the Pstat, I am going to use any of them I could find.

I know what is a Pstat. And Shing told me just before I entered this post, the Pt connector in a Pstat is the most expensive.
I didn't bought any Pstat, I am poor now.



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kckc,

???????

????????????????
??????????

??????????

?? ??吓啫
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kckc,

??????????
post D ??吓?????吓嘢???

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The boiler is going to be weld., and I am taking risk of burning my heating element. (by the way, he charged me 200... welding in hong kong)

So no pic yet Smile

Have your Alex arrived? Confused
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